6. On July 10, I received an e-mail message from an anonymous source with a link to a thread on an “Ex Scientologist Message Board” http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=14612#post14638 and advising me that someone had made a post to the board stating he or she was doing a documentary, looking for ex-Scientologists willing to go on camera, and had already spoken to me.

7. The complete thread as of this date, entitled “Vancouver ex scientologists” and consisting of 11 posts from July 10 to July 16, 2007, states:

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#1    10th July 2007, 06:00 AM 
Cassabilly 
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Vancouver ex scientologists

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sorry to put a post about looking for people, however I am doing a
documentary about lives of people after leaving the church of scientology.
Looking for anyone who would like to be apart of this. I'm looking for
anyone who would be willing to share their stories on camera. Thank you
for listening. feel free to ask questions
 
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#2    10th July 2007, 06:51 AM 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassabilly 
sorry to put a post about looking for people, however I am doing a
documentary about lives of people after leaving the church of scientology.
Looking for anyone who would like to be apart of this. I'm looking for
anyone who would be willing to share their stories on camera. Thank you
for listening. feel free to ask questions

You should contact Gerry Armstrong. He's in Chilliwack, but, has spent
much time in Vancouver and knows lots of people, as well as having a lot
of information himself.

gerry@gerryarmstrong.org

Zinj
 
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#3    10th July 2007, 10:39 AM 

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Cassabilly 
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 Gerry

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Thank you for that. I am already in contact with him but I would like to
get more people involved. Any others??
 
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  #4    11th July 2007, 05:11 AM 
Cassabilly 
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 ex scientologists get to express on film

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Still looking for a friend who will share their experiences good or bad.
drop me a line. same information from initial post. just refreshing.
 
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#5    11th July 2007, 05:20 AM 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassabilly 
Still looking for a friend who will share their experiences good or bad.
drop me a line. same information from initial post. just refreshing.

You may be underwhelmed by the response. This may be partially to do
with the fact that the Church will use certain methods to identify
individuals who post critical comments on forums such as these.
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truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is
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#6    11th July 2007, 05:31 AM 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tanstaafl 
You may be underwhelmed by the response. This may be partially to do
with the fact that the Church will use certain methods to identify
individuals who post critical comments on forums such as these.

And the best one is to get them in front of a camera.
 
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#7    11th July 2007, 07:51 AM 
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I want people to ask me questions about who I am and what my school is
involved with (film). I as well will not specify my name unless in private
messages. I'm trying to expose, knowing the consequences, about what the
church does after you leave. This is someones chance, if they feel they
can, to speak about what has gone on. My school is Vancouver Film
School, I will let you know that, which is acrossed the street from the
Scientology building which I can not do research in there. They already
dont like that i asked them questions.

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#8    11th July 2007, 07:59 AM 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassabilly 
I want people to ask me questions about who I am and what my school is
involved with (film). I as well will not specify my name unless in private
messages. I'm trying to expose, knowing the consequences, about what the
church does after you leave. This is someones chance, if they feel they
can, to speak about what has gone on. My school is Vancouver Film
School, I will let you know that, which is acrossed the street from the
Scientology building which I can not do research in there. They already
dont like that i asked them questions.

Well, certainly Gerry is your best bet as a contact to others, but, you could
also talk to Fluffy here, who's nearby and may be able to help you.

Stacy Young also used to live nearby and has plenty of stories, but, most
likely won't talk to you. Gerry might be able to help you get in touch.

Bear in mind that having a 'school video project' offer you a 'chance' isn't
necessarilly the kind of 15-minutes-of-fame someone who's been at the
target of the Cult will feel a need to 'jump' at

Zinj
 
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#9    13th July 2007, 04:51 PM 
Cassabilly 
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It would be very hard to discuss a subject that was personal and could be
held against someone. I have already talked to a couple people who do not
feel comfortable with this idea.. believe me, we could have picked any
subject in the world. this is a compelling story to tell and we want to be
the ones. Although, I'm not boasting just informing that we do have the

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chance to submit to film festivals if all goes well. This story is still in
development and I really appreciate the help you have given me.
 
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#10    13th July 2007, 11:05 PM 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassabilly 
It would be very hard to discuss a subject that was personal and could be
held against someone. I have already talked to a couple people who do not
feel comfortable with this idea.. believe me, we could have picked any
subject in the world. this is a compelling story to tell and we want to be
the ones. Although, I'm not boasting just informing that we do have the
chance to submit to film festivals if all goes well. This story is still in
development and I really appreciate the help you have given me.

The way you present yourself here makes a lot of people very nervous.

It is clear that you are not very well educated in the subject, and are not
really aware of the consequences of what you are asking of people here.

That adds up to lots of potential danger for the participants. And no one
here wants to see a product from someone who does not know what they
are talking about.

So while this subject may have some kind of "hipness" to it right now,
that's no reason for just anyone to go and make a documentary on it.

You have to know what you are doing and what you are getting into.

And I don't think you do.

Very few people want to take the time and the risk to teach you what you
are getting into.
 
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#11    16th July 2007, 02:03 AM 
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Originally Posted by Cassabilly 
Thank you for that. I am already in contact with him but I would like to
get more people involved. Any others??

Sure.

I left CofS after they tried to coerce me into not posting to the internet.

I'm not Vancouver area, though, but not too far away- I'm in Seattle.

If you want to get in touch with me, that's fine.
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8.  Around July 13, a man who identified himself as Steve Stransman called me and we spoke for some minutes. I mentioned that I’d read what had been posted on the Ex Scientologist Message Board, and he informed me that Cassandra, one of his fellow students at the Vancouver Film School (“VFS”) and a participant in the documentary film
project with him, had made the posts. I told Mr. Stransman that since Scientology agents

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monitor the Ex Scientologist Message Board, cult leaders doubtlessly knew of my involvement in his project. Because Scientology head David Miscavige has been trying in virtually ceaseless intelligence operations and legal chicanery to get me on camera or otherwise entrap me, I engaged Mr. Stransman in significant part to determine if he was an operative for the organization, or in some way being used to get close to me. In case he and his project were legitimate, I warned him that because of Miscavige’s personal and pathological hatred of me Scientology’s leaders would view the VFS project as a major threat, and the interaction with the project would be run from California where Scientology’s headquarters are. I’m sure I answered Mr. Stransman’s questions of me honestly and thoughtfully, as I answer everyone’s questions unless modulated by safety, courtesy or wisdom. In any event, I determined to proceed with Mr. Stransman’s VFS project and agreed to be interviewed and filmed. We talked about where the filming could happen, such as in a VFS studio or while picketing the Scientology organization across the street, which Caroline and I have done a number of times. Mr. Stransman and I discussed meeting before the filming, where this could happen, and we agreed that he and Cassandra would drive to Chilliwack to meet Caroline and me.

9.   Mr. Stransman called me over the next several days, let know that the project had become more focused and that their VFS supervisors had approved their outline and given them the go-ahead. We set a time of, I believe it was, 2:00 PM July 28 to meet in Chilliwack, and agreed that they would call when they got close. Throughout this period, I understood that Mr. Stransman and Cassandra had been in contact with Scientology representatives in Vancouver and were working out arrangements to film whoever the organization provided.

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10.  Mr. Stransman called around the agreed on time when he was nearby in Chilliwack, and I instructed him to meet Caroline and me at the city’s public library. For security reasons, Caroline and I do not have people visit in our apartment, other than a small set of family members we know with complete certainty are on our side and trustworthy in Scientology’s war on us. Even with these few family members, we severely restrict visits in our apartment because of our concern that Scientology’s agents have bugged the space. Scientology has a known history of unlawfully bugging its targets’ offices or residences, and also of burglarizing offices and other properties. In my case, Scientology claims to have valid authorizations from the Los Angeles police to wiretap and eavesdrop on me, my attorney, and others associated with us. The Los Angeles Police Chief officially and publicly denounced these “authorizations” as “invalid and unauthorized,” but the Scientology cultists still claim their documents to wiretap and eavesdrop on me are valid and authorized. http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/police/gates-announcement.html

11.  As agreed, Caroline and I met at the Chilliwack Public Library with Mr. Stransman and Cassandra, whose surname I think is Lindberg, along with two other VFS students who were introduced as also part of the project. The project members covered director, producer, camera and sound, I believe, and I also believe that Cassandra was in charge. The six of us talked for something over an hour. All of the students asked questions about my experiences in Scientology, some that I’ve answered many times, and a number of good questions that engaged me and showed me the students all were engaged. They indicated that they found me an acceptable interview subject, and my answers to their questions, although obviously sometimes alarming or scary, were

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reasoned and grounded in evidence. I told them our apartment doesn’t work for filming, and again I offered to come into Vancouver. Cassandra briefly mentioned her contact with the Scientology representatives, that she had been “grilled” and “bullied” and treated in an unfriendly way. I told her I understood, I was embarrassed for Scientology, and I made sure I didn’t grill her and the others, bully them or be unfriendly. I even signed a VFS release form they brought with them so they or the school would be free to use my part in their documentary as they wished. Cassandra said that it looked like Scientology had dropped out of the project, refusing to have a representative go on camera, a development that necessitated getting approval to continue the project without the organization’s input. I told them I thought that they had a great project with a lot of potential and that they were pretty courageous tackling the Scientology problem. They all appeared to be sober young people who were beginning to understand and confront a dangerous cult, and who were passionate about doing so in their chosen medium. They said they had other ground work to do, and, I think, required another approval on what they had done so far, and they expected to start filming in mid August.

2. On August 6, I believe, I received a call from Cassandra who informed me that the project had the green light and she wanted to schedule a date to film me. She said that they wanted two days, the first to film me running and the second to film the interview. She called the running idea a metaphorical sequence , and I supposed it was, both because for more than twenty-five years Scientology has kept me running, and because I’d managed all those years to stay one step ahead. I’m a competitive long distance trail runner, so I understood the metaphor and I agreed it could perhaps be an unusual and exciting sequence in the film. Cassandra said that their available days were

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August 11 and 12, or August 15 to 18, and I said August 15 and 16. She indicated that there was still considerable tension or intimidation coming from the Scientology representatives, who had refused to participate in the project, and consequently she didn’t want me to come to Vancouver. I mentioned that since we’d last spoken, Scientology had initiated a new legal attack in California to have me jailed and have warrants issued for my arrest, so the project’s short film could be very timely. She said that they would film the running sequence where I run and the interview in a park in Chilliwack. She asked if I had any print media articles involving Scientology and me, and I said I had some webbed and would send her some links. I also offered to send her links to some running related photos and other materials, and links to some picket photos that might be useful for the project. She said that would be great and gave me her VFS e-mail address. She said they really wanted to film hard copies of media stories on Scientology and me, and I said I had a number, including some in major magazines, and that I would bring them when we met on the 15th.

13.  Later on August 6, I sent Cassandra the following e-mail message:

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerry Armstrong [mailto:gerry@gerryarmstrong.org]
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:57 PM
To: [e-mail address]
Subject: Links, etc.

Let's aim for August 15 and 16, and if you need more then Aug 17.

Here's my media page:
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/media/index.html I have hard
copies of some of these things, and will gather them up for the next time
we meet.

Here's Scientology's motion to reinstate jail sentences against me in
California:

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http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a7/mtn-reinstate-sentences-warrant-2007-07-26.html

Also picket reports with some photos: http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/media/pickets.html

On the running side of life, this article in Runner's World might be useful: http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/media/rat/runners-world-1995-02.html

And a couple of Boston Marathon shots: 
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/media/rat/boston-marathon.html
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/media/rat/boston-marathon1.html

Any time.

Gerry & Caroline

14.  On August 12, Cassandra left a voice mail message for me stating:

Hi Gerry. This is Cassie Lindberg at the Vancouver Film School. My phone number is [XXX-XXX-XXXX]. I hope to talk to you today. If not, will try back tomorrow. Thanks, bye.

I didn’t get this message, however, until August 14. In the meantime, as I had not heard back from Cassandra, I called her and left a message on her voice mail.

15.  On August 14, I sent Mr. Stransman the following e-mail message:

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerry Armstrong [mailto:gerry@gerryarmstrong.org]
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:52 AM
To: 'Steve Stransman'
Subject: Please contact me

Hi Steve:

Please call and let me know what's up. A week or so ago, Cassandra said you guys were coming to Chilliwack tomorrow, but I've had no contact since then.

Hope all is well.

Gerry & Caroline

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16.  I continued to assume that the filming was proceeding on August 15, and was washing my trail shoes so they’d look and smell their best during the running sequence and the car ride there and back, when Cassandra called me in the late afternoon on August 14. She told me that they can’t do the project because they would get sued. She said the “church” came over to the school and threatened to sue, and the school cancelled the project. She said the Scientologist she knew who came to the school was a woman named Sherry (sp?) that Cassandra thought was the president. Cassandra said Sherry referred the VFS officials to the “pending court cases” Scientology has with me as the basis for why the organization would sue the school. Cassandra said it all came down to my being involved, that they couldn’t do the project if my name was even mentioned. Cassandra was noticeably upset with the cancellation of her film project, apologetic for however that let me down, and clearly frightened just talking to me on the phone. I didn’t, therefore, question her very much to get the details of exactly what happened, or to clarify some of the things she said that weren’t clear to me. The idea she and the school officials apparently got from Scientology’s representatives was that filming me at all was “against the law.” Cassandra said that all the project members’ instructors at VFS had been involved in the response to Scientology’s threat and the decision to cancel the project, and that they all had looked at my web site, presumably http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/  She said that the decision ultimately was made by David Hauka, the head of the Film Production Department. She said that the decision had been made five days earlier, and that all the project members had been instructed to start a completely new project. She said they’d had to start from scratch, and so had gotten back to me as soon as she possibly could. She said their new project is about why people are

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spiritual, and doesn’t involve Scientology. I was quite shocked and saddened by what Scientology had done to bully the participants in this creative project, and to bully the school and society in this matter, and I expressed this to Cassandra. I told her my position is that what Scientology did to suppress the project members’ and my basic human rights is precisely why the story they were going to tell should be told. I thanked her and all the project members for being interested in and pursuing my story, and wished them success in their current project and in their careers and lives.

declare under penalty of perjury pursuant to the laws of the Province of British Columbia, the State of California, Canada and the United States that the foregoing is true and correct.

Executed this 16th day of August 2007 in Chilliwack, B.C., Canada.

Gerry Armstrong