From: armstrong@ntonline.com (gerry armstrong)
Subject: Re: Ok Gerry, I have to ask the big question
Date: 1998/01/22
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On 21 Jan 1998 21: 01:50 +0100, Anonymous <nobody@REPLAY.COM> wrote:

>***** Son of Xenu ***** Anonymous Poster ***** Son of Xenu *****
>
> 21 Jan 1998
>
> I have a question for you too, Gerry. How about
>commenting on the following extract from DM's deposition?
>

Declaration, rather than deposition, executed by Miscavige February 8,
1994 and filed in Scientology v. Fishman & Geertz. I'll see what comes
to mind.

>>32. However, there were a number of obstacles to overcome before the
>>termination of the GO could be accomplished. Mary Sue Hubbard was still
>>asserting her authority over the GO from her position as Controller.
>>Contrary to Young's statements, she was not in jail, but was still very
>>much in control of the GO. At the same time, Mary Sue Hubbard was covertly
>>attempting to expand her power through her friendship with and influence
>>over Laurel Sullivan, a Church staff member who was in charge of a project
>>she referred to as the "MCCS project" -- the purpose of which was to "sort
>>out" the corporate structure of Church of Scientology of California.
>>

The purpose of MCCS for PR purposes was to "sort out" Hubbard's
"corporate category." Mission Corporate Category Sortout. The real
purpose could be stated to be to set up an organization structure
which allowed Hubbard to retain control but to avoid legal
responsibility. Ultimately this became the purpose of the structure
set up under Miscavige: to allow DM to control Scientology and avoid
legal responsibility. That's what the ASI, CSI, RTC, CST, WDC, CMO,
SMI and so forth scamcorps are all for.

DM saying " a project she referred to as the "MCCS project"" is
disingenuous. He was mission ops on MCCS, which was classified as an
"LRH Mission."

DM's assertion that "Mary Sue Hubbard was covertly
attempting to expand her power through her friendship with and
influence over Laurel Sullivan" is nothing more than the shore story
DM was then and is possibly even still peddling.

>>33. Instead of addressing a sensible reorganization of that Church,
>>Sullivan and her GO supporters were making their own plans to establish
>>trusts and for-profit entities which would have placed even greater
>>corporate control of the Church in the hands of Mary Sue Hubbard and other
>>GO executives in a fashion that would have assured the permanency of GO
>>dominance and power.

Whatever Laurel, MCCS and MSH were doing, it was, I believe, exactly
what they believed they were being ordered to do by Hubbard, and done
completely for his benefit. The cultmasters ended up with the same
sort of plan establishing ASI as the controlling for-profit entity,
and all the cultcorps with all their trusts and trustees.

Whatever DM is accusing Laurel and the GO of is what he did. He
assured the permanency of the GO dominance and power (he thought) by
changing its name to OSA.

>>
>>34. Shortly before the purge of the Guardian's Office, I discussed with
>>Laurel Sullivan various illicit GO activities we had already uncovered.
>>Sullivan was aware of these activities. Sullivan did not agree that the
>>acts the GO had committed were atrocious and that Mary Sue Hubbard and the
>>rest of her criminal group needed to be removed. She insisted that Mary Sue
>>Hubbard remain in power and that at all costs she and the Guardian's Office
>>should maintain total control of the organization regardless of the
>>criminal acts exposed by the government and others, in which Sullivan felt
>>the GO was completely justified in committing.
>>
I believe that if Laurel would talk she would tear a testimonial strip
off DM's carcass for this crap. Unfortunately Laurel has been
shuddered into "contractual" silence, so all we get is DM's crap. But
I would say, based on everything I know about Laurel, Mary Sue,
Miscavige and his cult, that it is just that, crap.

>>35. Upon learning of Laurel Sullivan's alliance with the GO and the plans
>>to reorganize the Church under Mary Sue Hubbard and her GO allies, I
>>removed Sullivan from her position and disbanded the MCCS project
>>altogether. In fact, recently released documents reveal that Laurel
>>Sullivan -- who would later become an adverse witness against the church
>>and me -- long ago admitted to law enforcement officials that the corporate
>>restructuring of the Church actually implemented, differed entirely from
>that envisioned in her MCCS project.
>

Miscavige knocked off Laurel, Mary Sue, competent GO execs, a bunch of
franchise holders, the Aznarans, the Broekers, the list goes on and
on. That much is true. Whether he also knocked off Hubbard himself has
been the subject of considerable serious debate. He is lying when he
says org restructring differed entirely from that envisioned in the
MCCS project. Much is identical, and the overall purpose is identical.
The real difference is that DM ended up in control and Hubbard ended
up dead.

>Also, I don't understand this business of Andrew Wilson sending
>out letters to critics saying that the permanent injunction
>against you "enjoins others from acting in concert" with you.
>I'm not that well tuned into this injunction, could you explain
>what this is all about.
>
>Thanks Gerry!

I can't read Wilson's mind, but I know the cult's, and I can say that
the reason this is being done is to adversely impact and illegaly
threaten critics' Constitutionally guaranteed rights to free speech,
freedom of religion, freedom of assembly and due process.

I believe that the cult is doing this now, and does much of what it
does, to create a cover and defense of reasonability for their illegal
actions. They think that if they didn't quit trying to enforce the
illegal Marin SC order, and didn't quit trying to use it against other
critics, it would appear that they acknowledge the order's illegality.

That's why they continually dig themselves in deeper. They should
quit, but they think they can't. If they quit they think it would
appear that they quit because they recognized that what they had been
doing was illegal. So they keep doing more and more illegal things.
They should quit, but they think they can't. If they quit they think
it would appear that they quit because they recognized that what they
had been doing was illegal. So they keep doing more and more illegal
things. They should quit, but they think they can't. If they quit they
think it would appear that they quit because they recognized that what
they had been doing was illegal. So they keep doing more and more
illegal things. They should quit, but they think they can't. If they
quit they think it would appear that they quit because they recognized
that what they had been doing was illegal. So they keep doing more and
more illegal things.
>
> Son of Xenu

Gerry