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From: Gerry Armstrong <gerry@gerryarmstrong.org>
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Subject: Re: Answer in $cientology v. Armstrong,
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:20:31 +0100
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:35:40 GMT, Keith <nospam@nosssppam.no.sd>
wrote:
>On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:25:12 GMT, "Gandalf" <
BasicQuestions@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
>>Your legal background, idiot? You cannot sign illegal agreements,
period.
>>For example, you cannot buy a slave for $10,000, even if the slave
signed
>>the agreement willingly.
>
> Prove that the agreement is illegal.
Stop pretending to be so stupid, Keith.
I have presented my arguments. Proof will come when the cult either
cancels the "contract," or it is ruled unlawful in court, or in
some
legislature, or in the court of public opinion. I have already had
legal opinions from excellent authorities that such a "contract"
is
not legally enforceable in Germany.
> Gerry can't do that and he knows it.
I am doing it. You are part of my ongoing proof.
You show that the best minds Scientology can throw at me can do
nothing to argue the merits but can only pretend to be stupid and
attack with stupidities.
But the event has not happened yet, so is impossible to prove. You act
so stupid.
It's a little like heavier than air flight. It was always possible,
but only proven when the Wright brothers flew. I have made my
arguments. I have not been proven wrong, and cannot be proven wrong,
any more than you could have proven the Wright brothers wrong because
they had not yet proven they were right.
The fact that one very deluded judge ruled that the "
contract" is
legal and legally enforceable does not prove it legal any more than my
pronoucement to the contrary does. But I can tell you that my
arguments are far more sound than the BS arguments the judge used to
"support" his ruling.
See what Judge Geernaert said about your cult's "contract:"
[Quote]
"So my belief is Judge Breckenridge, being a very
careful judge....if he had been presented that whole
agreement and if he had been asked to order its
performance, he would have dug his feet in because that
is one .... I'll say one of the most ambiguous, one-sided
agreements I have ever read. And I would not have
ordered the enforcement of hardly any of the terms if I
had been asked to, even on the threat that, okay the case
is not settled.
I know we like to settle cases. But we don't like
to settle cases and, in effect, prostrate the court
system into making an order which is not fair or in the
public interest."
[End Quote]
So, now I have two judges, Geernaert and Breckenridge, who support my
position. Is that "proof" enough for you?
I have on my side logic, law, the Constitution, legal opinions in
another country, arguments, facts, and two California Superior Court
Judges.
And on the other side you have a judge who was doing what? According
to Judge Geernaert, "prostrat[ing] the court
system into making an order which is not fair or in the
public interest." That's what Scientology wants. That's an illegal
purpose. You want Scientology to accomplish that illegal purpose. I
don't.
>He didn't sign any slave contract, just a standard take the money
and shut
up
>agreement.
Now it's your turn to pony up the proof. Show me any other settlement
agreement by any other church or religion in the United States which
contains similar clauses.
> I feel Gerry's pain, $800,000 is so unfair NOT!
Scientology paid me what was fair at the time to settle my claims
against them which were set for trial. I have neve complained about
the amount they paid me in settlement.
But Scientology did not pay me to be its fair game punching bag
forever.
Scientology likes to have fair game punching bags, because Scientology
is a criminal conspiracy. But such "contracts" are *not* legal.
© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org