"You see, take
a gun (they are all over the place), put a bullet in there (also easy).
Now locate the whereabouts of Gerry (requires some doingness), then go to
him (take a plane, that's fastest), wait for him (at some place), pull your
gun (does not require much musclepower), then aim (some will have problems
with this), and finally pull the trigger..(keep your hand steady or you'll
miss altogether). Easy no?"
— Spacetraveler
February 8, 2005
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"Lermanet.com" <ale...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> Morning, coffee, lets settle down, and see if this OSa scientology
> actor actually addressed anything, Ill predict before reading that
he
> just engaged in more Fallacious argument... well, coffee is here, lets
> read his 'reply' and see if he said aything... by even reading his
> stuff one agrees to a worst case of having ones time wasted... but
Ill
> give him another chance, and read...
Amazing you attempted to discuss something?
snip
> >So, you doubt it... You just assume that I will not or that
I can not...
Why
> >is that?
> >
>
> I always expect at some instant, sometime in your not too distant
> future that you are going to look up from your project orders and
> start to actually look around...
>
> And by your first 'comment' You just did it!
>
>
> Man are you toadly blinded by hubbard's lies?
You have to show it being lies.
>
>
> >In in fact addressed this already extensively with some discussion
with
> >Gerry Armstrong, he however started to run from that (link to that
post
can
> >be supplied, I keep interesting links).
> >
>
> Do tell, gerry knows how the prison for your mind is built...
That's why he is stuck into it. he runs as soon he is out of arguments.
Or
if the arguments gets too complicated.
>
> >I am not interested in what some people did after L. Ron Hubbard
disappeared
> >from the lines. I am not even that interesed in what people did
when he
was
> >still around. So, I will skip these. Why? because they do not add
anything
>
> Whatever, in short, you are not responding, just continuing to
> obfuscate.. thats a fancy word Hubbard picked out of a Synonym book
> for muddies the waters...
You are missing that you have to analyze the Hubbard writings themselves,
if
you are to find wrong with him.
>
>
> >to the discussion. People may very well have misinterpret things.
Stupidity
> >of people who do not understand something, we have had through
all ages.
> >Just like at the Jesus Christ phenomena, killing for the sake of
purity
or
> >something. Here it counts what Jesus himself said about things,
not what
> >other made of it. Same goes for L. Ron Hubbard.
> >
>
> I think you are are a new recruit, from some other country, whohas
> been hatted to take over the spacetravelor nickname cause the old one
> started having doubts about Scientology...
A new recruit where? I have ever questioned the current management or
what
some people may do, and even LRH, still do by the way at times.
>
> sigh...
>
> see yah when you get out, Ill tell your story too, and be sure to
> bring lots of documents when you leave...
>
> Arnie lerma
>
> sheesh , what a waste of time...
> i supposethis new "spacetravelor, for whome english is a 2nd language,
> won't fare much better than the last,
> Poor guy needs to read my exit pages...
Funny, what about my exit pages, you totally skipped my exit pages, meaning
you missed (look it up, it was there). Meaning also you failed to discuss...
again....
I post it here again:
> "to think freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own
> opinions and to counter or utter the write upon the opinions of
> others."
Fine...
>
> or Hubbard's "Battle Tactics"?
>
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/cult/sp/pl-1969-02-16-battle-tactics.h
tml
>
> "The prize is 'public opinion' where press is concerned. The only
> safe public opinion to head for is they love us and are in a frenzy
of
> hate against the enemy, this means standard wartime propaganda is what
> one is doing, complete with atrocity, war crimes trials, the lot. Know
> the mores of your public opinion, what they hate. That's the enemy.
> What they love. That's you."
Issue appears to be quoted in full at that link (I verified). Now, why
was
this issue written. It was written to handle a certain situation. A
situation that demanded certain handling to make the threat to the survival
of the organization and Scientology disappear. Extreme situations ask for
extreme ways of handling. Why should one not be allowed to defend oneself.
This issue is aiming at certain people, who do some specific things. The
critics on the ARS appear to make the EXACT SAME mistake as Scientologists
in general do. They take things out of context. One line (or paragraph or
even a whole issue) out of something is not always aiming at ALL people,
ALL
situations. Apparently people have big problems to evaluate information
and
how to take that information and to whom it is applicable.
Very few Scientologists actually now about the issue, if you read it
while
being intern (if you got a hold of it somehow), then you were forced to
sign
a bond saying that you do not disclose this information to those whom had
no
use for knowing about it. It have not seen it applied when I was intern.