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"You see, take a gun (they are all over the place), put a bullet in there (also easy). Now locate the whereabouts of Gerry (requires some doingness), then go to him (take a plane, that's fastest), wait for him (at some place), pull your gun (does not require much musclepower), then aim (some will have problems with this), and finally pull the trigger..(keep your hand steady or you'll miss altogether). Easy no?"

— Spacetraveler
February 8, 2005

From: spacetraveler2...@hotmail.com (Spacetraveler)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.clearing.technology,nl.scientology,de.soc.weltanschauung.scientology,fr.soc.sectes
Subject: Re: For Gerry...... HCO POLICY LETTER OF 21 JULY 1968
Date: 6 Dec 2004 01:04:55 -0800
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Gerry Armstrong <g...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote in message news:<glb6r0lmkse1n0edchvberv1sepc0tbgti@4ax.com>...
> On 5 Dec 2004 06:30:40 -0800, spacetraveler2...@hotmail.com
> (Spacetraveler) wrote:
>
> >Jens Tingleff <jenst...@tingleff.org> wrote in message news:<couoaj02mh6@news2.newsguy.com>...
> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >> Hash: SHA1
> >>
> >> Spacetraveler wrote:
> >>
> >> > pigno...@worldnet.att.net (Monica Pignotti) wrote in message
> >> > news:<53183a73.0412041127.288b2def@posting.google.com>...
> [....]
> >> >> They're just doing the same things while denying the former label they
> >> >> put on it. That's what it comes down to. There are plenty of
> >> >> examples of the CofS participating in what was described in the fair
> >> >> game policies, after it was cancelled. If you don't see that, it's
> >> >> because you're evading the issue.
> >> >
> >> > So, I haven't seen it practiced, Barbara hasn't seen it. And we have
> >> > been around for some time.
> >> >
> >>
> >> So, it boils down to us accepting your argument from authority?
> >
> >No, I am not saying that. I say, find out.
> >
> >>
> >> Nice job accepting that you are, in fact, evading the issue.
> >
> >Excuse me? The issue evaded is HCO POLICY LETTER OF 21 JULY 1968.
>
> No, Spacetrollop, that's a *mimeo issue*. It's not being evaded at
> all.
>
> You are attempting to use this mimeo issue, dishonestly and
> ridiculously, to evade the issue. The issue is the "Suppressive
> Person" doctrine and its application on SPs, which Hubbard called
> "Fair Game."

You claim and at the same ignore the issue. Well, Gerry, "dishonestly
and ridiculously"

>
> All you Scientologists make a big deal about *confront*. Hubbard's
> ability to *confront* and your own ability to *confront*. Well let's
> see a little *confront* rather than all this evasion, cheap
> non-confront and dishonest comm "tech." Let's see you confront the
> issue: the "Suppressive Person" doctrine and its application on SPs,
> which Hubbard called "Fair Game."

Claim, nothing else.

>
> Your mimeo issue is not the issue.

It most definitely is!

> It affects no one's life and does
> nothing.

It effected mine.

> The "Suppressive Person" doctrine and "Fair Game" affects
> millions of people's lives. Confront the issue!

Millions? What millions? Did the church had no more followers than
50,000 or so. Millons Gerry? Are you out of your mind....

>
> >
> >>
> >> See, this is one of the places where cult victims just don't "get" Real
> >> Life. Because they've been indoctrinated inside the cult to accept
> >> everything with no more sound basis the argument from authority, the
> >> victims expect people in Real Life to accept it. Sad to see what was
> >> probably a reasonably sound mind reduced to saying "you're wrong because
> >> *I* say you're wrong and because Hubbard said you're wrong."
> >
> >Thank you for sharing with us admitting that you do not have the
> >faintest idea what Scientology is about. Tory has been there 30 years,
> >and she doesn't even know.
>
> Oh yes, cheap idiotic pronouncements like this really show your
> Scientological level of confront.
>
> You demonstrate very well what Scientology is about: abusive
> communication, dishonesty and non-confront of the issue.

And again, not addressing issue, making claims and not supporting
them...

Spacetraveler

 

 


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