"You see, take
a gun (they are all over the place), put a bullet in there (also easy).
Now locate the whereabouts of Gerry (requires some doingness), then go to
him (take a plane, that's fastest), wait for him (at some place), pull your
gun (does not require much musclepower), then aim (some will have problems
with this), and finally pull the trigger..(keep your hand steady or you'll
miss altogether). Easy no?"
Zinj <zinji...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1c16ac5e9979ba01989c86@news2.lightlink.com>...
> In article <9f53d1e2.0411301511.26467...@posting.google.com>,
> spacetraveler2...@hotmail.com says...
>
> <snip>
>
> > Extreme situations ask for extreme handlings. Almost any of these
are
> > written during 1968/69, the Church during the time was under severe
> > attacks. Omar Garrison discusses quite a bit of this in his 1974
book.
> > No, off course they are not 'warm,. I find them however not fuzzy.
It
> > was a question of surviving of going under, are you saying that
one
> > has not the right to defend oneself while being under attack?
>
> This is an ominous statement considering that the 'Church' of
> Scientology is teetering on the verge of extinction or implosion to
a
> degree it has never before experienced.
>
> Yes, the 'Church' has consistently (which for Scientology ot the
> 'Church' is itself amazing) operated on the premise that literally
> *anything* advantageous to its 'survival' or even 'pan determinism'
is
> acceptable, and even the height of 'ethics'.
>
> That is the core of 'Scientology Ethics'. If it's 'good' for
> Scientology; it's Ethical.
Basically yes, but you also need to have a practical and truthful
definition of Scientology itself.
>
> Murder, subversion, corruption, fraud, extortion, torture and even
> genocide are perfectly acceptable *for the 'Church'*, if it enhances
the
> 'survival' of Scientology. Anything less is theety-weetyism.
>
> Of course, the 'Church' and Scientologists in general do *not*
> immediately resort to the 'biggest guns' in every case, since it causes
> 'PR Flaps'. But it's in the toolkit, and available for use as needed.
> And things like fraud and extortion and corruption and subversion are
> *always* needed; assuming the 'Church' doesn't get caught. Which it
> does; often. See the history of 'Fair Game'.
>
> Nice of you to remind us that the 'Church' never reaches to 'extreme
> measures' unless it *really wants to* or *really needs to*. And that
> now, in its days of disaster, such 'needs and wants' are far more likely
> than in days when it can get away with its lesser crimes with less
> notice.
As a matter of fact, I know of no instances it has been used. Not
during my time intern that is. Most of my time I was either a Msnaire
or posted somewhere in HCO, I had access to any files, and I was a
curious and very attentive individual.