While Gerry madly accuses others of doing all the lying, sheez, read below.
He's the biggest liar of the bunch. Susan

In article <na9er0llsgs00guvv44rives595tl2g2du@4ax.com>, Gerry Armstrong says...
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>On 7 Dec 2004 21:27:28 -0000,
>Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header.gmsociety.org (Cerridwen) wrote:
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>>On 7 Dec 2004, Ladayla <Ladayla_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
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>>>I object to the posting of cos promo here because:
>>>I have posted my reasons before. I will repeat them. Earlier, I think that I
>>>referred to policy letters in the cos pr dept that counted up the stats that
>>>they count for promo disseminated to the public. It is too much effort to try
>>>to
>>>show people who are grinding another axe , the grinding of my axe. I will just
>>>say that contributing to their 'wins' efforts is not of interest to me.
>>>I don't consider it a valuable service.I look at it as doing OSA's work.
>>>If I were still interested in their promo, I would get on their mailing lists.
>>>If you think that you are getting some valuable information from cos promo, I
>>>think that you should consider the source of that info. But if you guys wanna
>>>play that game, continue.
>>>
>>>la
>>>
>>>
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>>You didn't always think like that.
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>>From: ladayla <ladayla_mem...@newsguy.com>
>>Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
>>Subject: Cerridwen
>>Date: 29 Sep 2001 13:04:43 -0700
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>>Message-ID: <9p59gr0v1a@drn.newsguy.com>
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>>ARSCC(wdne) owes a huge debt of gratitude to Cerridwen for posting data re
>>Huborg activities. The typing of the various lists alone looks like an onerous
>>task, and excerpts from their promo is interesting and possibly invaluable to
>>some. I thank you, Cerridwen, and do so much appreciate your efforts.
>> la
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>>From: ladayla <ladayla_mem...@newsguy.com>
>>Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
>>Subject: Re: Quick question for Cerridwen
>>Date: 17 Jul 2002 14:44:52 -0700
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>>Message-ID: <ah4ogk0ce7@drn.newsguy.com>
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>>
>>(excuse me for breaking in on your (very nice) comm line....
>>I also want to thank Cerriden.
>>I must say that this is the most interesting completion list I've seen in a long
>>time. Why, even Gene Denk's name is listed, and the Hitchmans', and ! Rene Duke.
>>That old Rene (is/was0 the 'in-charge' of the OT Committee. That committee
>>carried out a lot of OSA's programs. Haven't seen her name in ages. And Gene
>>Denk...well...anyways, there are a lot of interesting names on the lists this
>>time.
>>Thanks much.
>>la
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>>Then in Feb 2003 you change your mind and don't think my posting these
>>things is such a good idea.
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>>What I found interesting in the thread, (see below) is that
>>you started thinking I was doing OSA's work after your friend Gerry
>>Armstrong put me on his OSA Goon page for daring to criticize him.
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>You know, you are such a popular figure on a.r.s., and all sorts of
>figures here thank you so regularly for what you do, some more than
>others, there's really not much need for you to lie. It isn't an "OSA
>Goon page" you're on. Everybody knows that.
>
>Only the people pretending to be stupid in order to attack
>Scientology's fair game victims keep saying it's the "OSA Goon page."
>You don't have to follow in their footsteps. You can think for
>yourself.
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>And you're not on the page, which is really the "GOON SQUAD FOLLIES"
>page, "for daring to criticize [me]." You're on because of your
>attacks on Scientology's fair game victims, and because of the
>pretended stupidity you employed to make those attacks, but not for
>criticizing me. That's a lie. And it's just that sort of lie, which
>you can't help but know is a lie, because of all the mass of evidence
>to the contrary, that serves Scientology's malevolent purposes toward
>Scientology's fair game victims.
>
>Now call the page by its right name, "GOON SQUAD FOLLIES," and tell
>the truth about why you're on the page. To not do so, when you've been
>given the truth, only serves OSA's malevolent purposes toward
>Scientology's fair game victims. You're certainly not a fair game
>victim. Why heap more abuse on those victims then with more lies?
>What's in it for you?
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>>Up until then, the lists and the info was just fine and dandy with
>>you.
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>>You and others can think it's doing OSA work and that the C of S takes
>>a win because I post their lists and exaggerated wins, but I have to
>>strongly disagree.
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>>Just because those nutty Scientologists think that my posting "theta"
>>information to a bunch of SP's is going to CAUSE a good EFFECT means
>>absolutely nothing in the real world. So what if they think that?
>>Who cares? Their thinking and believing something really dumb like
>>that is ludicrous.
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>>They also think LRH is a War Hero and the release of OT 8 was the real
>>"why" behind the Berlin Wall coming down. Just because they think and
>>believe it doesn't make it real. Just because they might count it on
>>their stats means nothing at all. It's only true in their heads. It
>>has no meaning in the real world.
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>>I understand what you are saying but I just completely disagree and
>>totally don't care what they think.
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>>I also think that they hate what I do. I think they hate the fact
>>that the lists are tabulated and that graphs are posted on the net so that
>>others can see their obvious lies.
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>>I think they hate it that they have be careful about publishing their
>>wins because the know the critics on ars will follow up on their PR
>>wins and foil their plans.
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>>I doubt they think I am doing OSA's work and they would be happy to
>>find out who I am so they could fair game me and try to get me to
>>stop. At this point I have a better chance of being outed by a critic than
>>OSA.
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>>If OSA wanted to run an OP on me to get me off ars, they'd just
>>produce a few more critics that thought like you.
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>Oops, your oop is showing.
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>>If I stop posting to ars, it won't ever be because of OSA or their
>>tactics on me. It will because I get fed up with closed minded Ex's and critics
>>such as yourself.
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>Oh isn't that convenient.
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>>Here's the thread I was referring to above.
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>>http://tinyurl.com/522zj
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>>Cerridwen
>>OSA Goon
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>>http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/source/analysissummary.html
>>www.scientologypayback.org
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