Gerry Armstrong wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:59:53 GMT, "Spacetraveler"
> <spacetraveler2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"realpch" <realpch@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:4253FE50.940FB77B@aol.com...
> >> Spacetraveler wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "realpch" <realpch@aol.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:42535C4E.7B3A42EB@aol.com...
> >> > > Spacetraveler wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "realpch" <realpch@aol.com> wrote in message
> >> > > > news:4252F6C5.12A5E791@aol.com...
> >> > > > > Spacetraveler wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > snip
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >Don't think so. Gerry for sure does not like all this
> >attention.
> >> > If
> >> > > > he
> >> > > > > > quits
> >> > > > > > > >faking, I will quit my counter actions against him.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Incitement to murder,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/4p7cj
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > and now extortion.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I have the legal right to share my suspicions. The
impersonator
> >> > > > obviously
> >> > > > > > confusing people, and this is in the line of Gerry's
behaviour
> >as
> >> > > > observed
> >> > > > > > in many of his postings. He for instance run from this
one:
> >> > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/5lgcp
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > <snip>
> >> > > > > > Spacetraveler
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > You were complaining that he never denied your
accusations. Now he
> >has
> >> > > > > done so. What are *you* going to do now?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Per your phrasing: Stop complaining that he never denied my
> >accusations.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Is there anything else to do?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Spacetraveler
> >> > >
> >> > > Yeah, didn't you say that one of the proofs that Gerry was
> >> > > "impersonating" you was that he hadn't denied doing so?
> >> > >
> >> > > So there you go. Stop claiming he's doing it!
> >> >
> >> > One of the proofs, one of the proofs. How many "proofs"
(arguments or
> >> > circumstancial evidence are my words) do I have left. In
addition it is
> >> > still so that Gerry was not seen responding to posts, when
> >"Spacetraveler
> >> > impersonator" actually did his entry. At this time Gerry "came
back".
> >That's
> >> > also still an argument, because Gerry may think that he gets
away with
> >it if
> >> > he also posts under his own name.
> >>
> >> Uh huh. But it's a silly argument!
> >>
> >> > > You could possibly accuse each other poster to this newsgroup,
and
> >spam
> >> > > the joint with the accusations, until each one gives up,
notices you,
> >> > > and denies it. Then whoever is left over can be the Official
> >> > > Spacetraveler Impersonator.
> >> >
> >> > If that's true that what you say, then is that not the tactics
used by
> >the
> >> > common critic around here? Did you tell them to stop doing that?
Why
> >picking
> >> > on me? YOu don't know if "everyone" denies it, how would you
know, you
> >have
> >> > to assume!
> >>
> >> You're spamming the doggone newsgroup!
> >
> >May I not inform the readers when they are being presented postings
of my
> >impersonator? Did you send your complaint to dizum.com? May I not
defend
> >myself? Do I have to sit and watch someone making a fool of someone
else by
> >impersonating, without me being permitted taking counter actions?
>
> That's about it. If someone impersonates you, you don't get to
falsely
> accuse an individual who didn't impersonate you. If someone kicks
sand
> at you, you don't get to wrong target someone else.
>
> Scientology, of course, teaches otherwise. Scientology teaches in
its
> "Suppressive Person" doctrine that innocent people *are* to be
> attacked. In fact the only people to be attacked are innocent. But
> that too, like your falsely accusing me, to people who have enough
> understanding to see what Scientology and you doing, is not
permitted.
>
> Scientology's idiot ops on this group mimic what the cult teaches are
> "suppressive characteristics" as part of their op. They get to
> exactly "project" onto their targets Hubbard's concept of SP. Having
> "projected" those characteristics, the idiot ops have mocked up a
> reality wherein they assert that the targets they are projecting on
> are in fact SP, and are in fact proof of Hubbard's SP doctrine. These
> "SPs" onto whom the ops have had projected all the qualities of SP,
> thus make Hubbard right and them right and all us SPs wrong, but
right
> for fair gaming.
>
> I am aware that the "Spacetraveler" op's goal is to make himself
> appear to be insane and violent, and that his willfully false
> accusations serve that end. In order to make himself appear to be
> insane and violent he has to be insane and violent. Miscavige does
the
> same thing Scientology-wide.
>
> The risk is that wogs will sooner or later obtain the understanding
to
> see the insanity and the violence. That's Scientology's real race --
> to be in power when the wog world cognites on how insane and violent
> Scientology really is. If the world grasps just how insane and
violent
> Scientology is before its cult comes to power, at which point it can
> be as insane and violent as it wants, being a Scientologist will not
> be much fun, even for its celebrity corps.
>
> >
> >What is your solution?
>
> The same solution works for you, for Miscavige, for his idiot ops,
for
> his ever-so-clever ops, for Barbara Schwarz, for Scientology and
> Scientologists: quit projecting your insanities onto good people;
quit
> attacking good people; quit lying about good people; quit fair gaming
> everyone. You see, the solution is so simple anyone can do it. Do
> nothing. When the order to fair game arrives, or the urge to fair
game
> arises, do nothing.

That is what I am telling you, Gerry Armstrong. You are attacking good
people and lying about them and you are apparently forging them. Your
lies about L. Ron Hubbard and I and other Scientologists are
disgusting.

You are insane, you are feeling persecuted by Scientologists who don't
want anything of you. You are fair-gaming us. How dare you to post that
I would be capable of murder. Nothing could be further away from your
character, but it must be a part of your character as you came up with
it. You are a criminal defamer, Gerry, and you are serverly disturbed
making such outrageous allegations.

I saw David Miscavige once in my lifetime, and I had not even any
conversation with him. That makes me to be his "operative"? I am a
private Scientologist, I don't take any orders from anybody. Whatever I
do and write is my personal decision. You know that since years but you
entertain a website with those repeated lies.

You just don't have any marbles together, and if you would get over
your eating disorders, you probably would stop seeing white mice just
about everywhere. Get something to eat, you bloody anorexic idiot!

Barbara Schwarz

>
> >
> >>
> >> > Here we are again! You on the side of Gerry, and I on the other
side. Do
> >you
> >> > also share the deluded opinion of Gerry about that socalled
> >"deaththreat"?
> >> > If you do, then well you know waht I think then. If you don't,
why do we
> >not
> >> > see your query on that? (or I must have missed your query)
> >> >
> >> > Don't play games, girl!
> >> >
> >> > Spacetraveler
> >>
> >> No, I didn't think it was a death treat, just an extremely ill
advised
> >> posting. Freud would have had a heyday with it.
> >
> >In my opinon you are exaggerating.
> >
> >It was a parody, to show how ridiculous Gerry's claims are about
> >deaththreats. The guy is a walking clown, playing around with his
> >"lawsuits", never being exact and if being forwarded a valid counter
> >argument that he can not win, he is outta here.
>
> A set of "facts" that are lies, that you cannot support with a speck
> of evidence. What you state here in fact supports the clear and
> reasoned conclusion that you are fair gaming me. Anyone being fair
> gamed by Scientology, or by anyone, would be irresponsible to not be
> aware, and even to often state, that the fair gamers seek his death.
> The solution, as I said above, is for Scientology and Scientologists
> to quit fair gaming.
>
> > But not everyone seems to
> >notice this, especially those who have covered themselves with
reasons why
> >Scientology itself is bad.
>
> Scientology is a murderous philosophy. Its "Suppressive Person"
> doctrine is violent, dangerous, insane and evil.
>
> This "Spacetraveler" op is too cowardly, just like every
> Scientologist, to discuss their own SP doctrine, because that
> doctrine, being so evil, is utterly unconfrontable.
>
> Instead Scientology, and the ops like this op, respond, as the
> doctrine dictates, with fair game. Fair game itself is the
> philosophy, policy and practice of opportunistic hatred. Scientology
> is organized to find, create and execute opportunities to harm and
> obliterate SPs. SPs, of course, are good people with enough courage
> to confront the supremely evil SP doctrine.
>
> > If the guy is afraid as he claims, then why is he
> >out in the open all the time, accusing, ridiculing, and so on....
>
> I accuse Scientology and its agents because they are responsible for
> criminal activities, human rights abuses, and terror.
>
> I accuse you of the crimes you've committed against me, all
documented
> here on a.r.s. -- incitement to murder, extortion, criminal
> defamation.
>
> I ridicule Scientology, Hubbard, Miscavige and you, when I do so,
> because you're all ridiculous. That is not to say that some of the
> most malevolent and violent historical systems and individuals were
> also not ridiculous. You all are also both -- violent and ridiculous.
>
> Obviously I am afraid, by which I mean that I am aware of
> Scientology's murderous philosophy; and aware that Scientology
creates
> and hires deranged people to attack its fair game victims; that
> Scientology is being drawn through the Armstrong litigation into a
> confrontation with its unconfrontable "Suppressive Person" doctrine;
> that Miscavige's personal hatred is pathological; that the litigation
> proceeds as inexorably for Miscavige and his cultists as it does for
> me; that the core belief of Miscavige and his regime is that they
must
> do whatever is necessary to keep getting away with what they've been
> getting away with; that the Armstrong case threatens what they've
been
> getting away with; and that the Miscavige regime has taken no step to
> reduce its threat or the insanity and murderousness of its SP
> doctrine, which underlies and justifies all the cult's and the
> cultists' criminality and abuses.
>
> That I have such awareness obviously influences my activities.
> Awareness serves the same purpose in everyone. But my awareness of
> threat from Miscavige's Scientology, or from its idiot ops, or from
> its clever ops, or from the "Spacetraveler" entity, does not mean
that
> I wouldn't be out in the open at times, or that I wouldn't accuse
fair
> gamers like "Spacetraveler" of fair game, or that I wouldn't ridicule
> their ridiculous philosophies, policies, practices and intentions,
> even if these philosophies, policies, practices and intentions are
> also murderous.
>
> > The guy
> >is just putting up an act.
>
> An act of what? <no read>
>
> I'm more real than DM's most bloodcurdling nightmare. F/N
>
> >
> >Spacetraveler
> >
>=20
> =A9 Gerry Armstrong
> http://www.gerryarmstrong.org