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From: StilllovingMarty@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: punishment vs. withholding of reward
Date: 25 Jul 2004 15:36:25 -0700
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"roger gonnet" <rg@antisectes.net[OTER-L-ANTISPAM]> wrote in message
news:<41013f91$0$19556$626a14ce@news.free.fr>...
> "Faxhor" <faxhor@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message
de
> news:c901bee5.0407230030.161523af@posting.google.com...
> > dst@cs.cmu.edu (Dave Touretzky) wrote in message
news:<41004fc2$1@news2.lightlink.com>...
> > > There is a difference between punishment and the withholding of
> > > reward. Punishment causes pain, or at least discomfort, and is
> > > emotionally upsetting, which interferes with cognition. Withholding
> > > reward is still a negative outcome, but it does not cause the kind
of
> > > suffering, fear, and upset (enturbulation?) that punishment does.
> > > That's why clueful animal trainers use carefully timed rewards,
not
> > > punishment, to accomplish their goals.
> >
> > Touretzky, you are right. That is why scientologists are not
> > supposed to punish with physical or otherwise enturbulating
> > methods. Instead in scientology one is supposed to use a
> > penalty (such as a withold of reward as you suggest.)
> >
> > I really believe the murders you hear of are done by suppressives
> > who infiltrate scientology and the supposed 'policy' they followed
> > was not real scientology tech but re-written 'tech' not authorized
> > by Ron.
> >
>
> You must be a brainwashed scientologist to believe such ineptitudes, fax.
> Could you really imagine that people do really infiltrate scientology - like
> me, or Gerry, or Larry, or Maggo-Tory, so as to become good critics of you
> criminal leaders?
>
>
>
> r
Yes, exactly, Roger Gonnet, people like you and the others that you
just mentioned confirm that the orgs are infiltrated by remote
controlled psychiatric agents. You guys are the disgusting evidence to
such movement and infiltration. First you sneak in, then you alter,
destroy and corrupt from the inside, then you go out, claim to be an
insider and attack from the outside.
Infiltration is probably the oldest secret service activity on earth
and used against Scientology since the day the Dianetics book was
published. Your seniors the psychs, had just such a problem with a
humane and scientific movement that could make people sane and
healthy. They see SCN as competition and suppressive as they are,
don't want people to be healthy and sane.
Barbara Schwarz
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