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From: BarbaralovesMarty@excite.com (Barbara Schwarz)
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Subject: Re: HEMET Fires: Where ARE those "OT 's"?
Date: 1 Nov 2003 09:47:12 -0800
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"Magoo" <Magoo44@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:< 3fa2c545@news2.lightlink.com>...
> "Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaralovesMarty@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:4c418fa.0310280855.87688da@posting.google.com...
> > mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<05crpv4r5u2krvdk8vjianliamd50f2bvv@4ax.com>...
> > > On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:20:58 -0800, Zinj <zinjifar @yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >In article <ca9rpvoe72qhq3k2a624se0ele6d1pufj2 @4ax.com>,
> > > >tinmimus99@hotmail.com says...
> > > >
> > > >> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:18:44 -0800, Chris Leithiser
> > > >> <cleithis@bc.cc.ca.us> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >Magoo wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> PS: Since LA has the most OT's in the world..............this same
question
> > > >> >> goes for ALL of LA, and San Diego.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Obviously, OT's attract catastrophe.
> > > >>
> > > >> No, any time something like this happens, it's a sign that there are
> > > >> "hidden SPs" within the organization . . . .
> > > >
> > > >There Are no *SP*'s in Orgs! No *matter* what Barbara Schwarz or
> > > >anyone claims!
> >
> > Infiltrators are in the orgs since ever. They are non-Scientologists
> > under cover. They destroy from the inside out and later some blow and
> > attack SCN from the outside, as Gerry Armstrong, Jesse Prince, Arnie
> > Lerma,Tory/Magoo, Bid Harrington, Michael Pattinson, and so many other
> > ARS posting SP's. How about you, Mimus, being an ex-SCN infiltrator?
>
>
> Here's where that breaks down, my dear:
You posted once, I shall not "dear" you, so don't "dear" me either,
Magoo.

> "Infiltrators" gather information.

Gee, is that what your case officer told you? You were in the orgs to
"gather information"? The definition of an infiltrator is not to
gather information. If you would ever looked in a dictionary you would
have understood that infiltrators infiltrate. They may gather
information, but they also take over and commit crimes.

If you read throughout history,
> infiltrators covertly join a group, get the information to screw them, pass
> it on, and leave quiet quietly.

You have no clue about history, Tory/Magoo. Absolutely none. There
were numerous take overs by infiltrators of governments. Most did not
leave quietly, (lol) but it ended with the leader and his supporters
killed and the infiltrators in total control.

To whom did they your infiltrators pass the information? To whom did
you pass your SCN information while you were playing being a
Scientologist?

They don't want to be known, nor can they be
> followed. They're the secret info people....informing. Thus the name:
> Informants!

I did not post about informants, I posted about infiltrators. Both
certainly don't want to be known. You covered it up for 30 years and
you still don't want it to be known that you were never a Scio but
always only an infiltrator, or in your words, an informant.

>
> Name one time when an "Infiltrator" went public (after doing their dirty
> work)....except those who have LEFT, and are SPEAKING OUT.

Lol. Your case, Tory! You and many others that once lied being
Scientologists.
Also many infiltrators stay in the orgs. They want to change SCN to
the Church of Psychatology, take as much religion out as possible, but
as much psychology in as possible and take it over. They have no plans
to come forward till the last real Scientologist is gone or has
nothing to say anymore in the orgs. The infiltration should be never
known. But some receive the order from their case officers to attack
from the outside. As still enough infiltrators are in the orgs, they
can afford letting people like you, Garry Armstrong, Jesse Prince,
Michael Pattinson, Arnie Lerma, etc., go once in a while, to attack
SCN from the outside. It has the purpose to attack the religion and L.
Ron Hubbard, not the infiltrators that are still inside.

> DUH! And guess what? Every Single person you have named are extremely overt,
> speaking out publically, willing to meet.

Yes, because their case officers ordered them to blow. They also all
conceal the crystal clear fact that SCN is target of infiltration
since ever and that there are infiltrators in the orgs that are no
Scientologists, causing troubles.

>
> How about you and the thugs you work with? Undercover, hidden, afraid to
> meet, secret.
> mmmmm.....who COULD that be?

I am ethical, I never infiltrated any organization. I came to SCN
being very interested in religion. Not in handling a personal problem,
but the religion SCN was what attracted me; the explanation who we are
and where we go; where we came from; the adventure of discovering past
lives and who God is; and how we are related to him, becomming godlike
as much as possible; the building of a better world... But
infiltrators kick such Scientologist out and hire infiltrator rats
instead.

I was kicked out from Scientology by infiltrator Bid Harrington. She
blew immediately after she outed me and started to attack SCN. I was
outed by a SCN infiltrator. I asked her once that she should admit
that she was never a Scientologist, and she never denied that she
never was one. So, what did she in the orgs? Except infiltrating and
committing crimes against real Scientolgists and bringing SCn in
miscredit. And same, I have to ask you: What the hell did you in the
orgs, if not infiltrating?

>
> Give me a call and prove me wrong.
> I love to be proved wrong :)
>
> Tory/Magoo~in the light~
> (818) 841-3632

Tory, you don't have the brains to convince me on your or other
infiltrators innocence.

Barbara Schwarz
>
>
>
> >
> > Barbara Schwarz
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > >No matter that the orgs keep discovering them! MEST is not all
> > > >that simple you stupid wogs!
> > > >
> > > >(humming)
> > > >Tie a yellow t-shirt
> > > >round the old palm tree
> > > >when your house gets burned
> > > >it's your ruin you'll see
> > > >
> > > >The OT's on the hillside
> > > >all just want your best
> > > >
> > > >So get on the bus
> > > >spiral right to us
> > > >and take an IQ test!
> > > >
> > > >Cuz Mankind's only hope
> > > >is wearing staff O(T's)
> > > >
> > > >Hemet T
> > > >Movie stars, hollywood!
> > >
> > > I am studiously ignoring the previous post.
> > >
> > > --
> > > tinmimus99@hotmail.com
> > >
> > > I saw
> > > many people
> > > reduced to
> > > incoherent babbling,
> > > stripping off clothes,
> > > crawling around on the ground,
> > > banging heads, limbs and other body parts
> > > against furniture and walls,
> > > barking,
> > > losing all sense of one's identity
> > > and intense and persistent suicidal ideation.
> > >
> > > --Declaration of Andre Tabayoyon
> > >
> > > http://www.holysmoke.org/sm/tabayoyon.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm an OT.--Lisa McPherson
> > >
> > > If you imagine 40-50 Scientologists
> > > posting on the Internet every few days,
> > > we'll just run the SP's right off the system.
> > > It will be quite simple, actually.
> > >
> > > --Elaine Siegel, OSA INT (1996)
> > >
> > > Case 5/BTLA/SP1/BAD
> > >
> > > KSJ
> > >
> > > (And, BTW: Xenu Xenu Xenu!)
> > >
> > >
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