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From: BarbaralovesMarty@excite.com (Barbara Schwarz)
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Subject: Re: Question for Barbara Schwarz - I hope she will answer it properly this time
Date: 14 Oct 2003 09:29:12 -0700
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doubledrooks2003@yahoo.com (Truth Seeker) wrote in message news:<3f8b73ee.21136743@News.Individual.NET>...
> Dear Barbara Schwarz,
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> I have some questions for you if you don't mind answering them.
> If there are any words I've used in this article that you don't
> understand the definition of, please look it up in your Scientology
> dictionary.

Give me a break! As if I would not understand SCN terms!
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> 1. Isn't it true that identifying two terminals which should be seen
> as separate is a sign of insanity? For example, if a man were to look
> at his wife and say "Hi Mommy!" he would be confusion his mother with
> is wife. Remember, I don't mean he's saying "Hi Mommy!" in a kidding
> way or just playing around, he actually believes his wife IS his
> mother. Do you understand what I'm talking about now? If a person is
> doing this, didn't L. Ron Hubbard believe that this is a sign of
> insanity?

I think it is odd to call the own wife "Mommy". I would not want Marty
to call me "Mommy". Not that he has not the most wonderful and most
beautiful mother in the whole wide world, but I just don't happen to
be his Mommy. But Marty never would call me that, because he is not a
weirdo.

Yes, I would say that a man indeed seriously mixing up his mother with
his wife has some confusion to handle, and he is not a poster boy for
mental health. Or are you hitting at it that his wife was once, in
another lifetime his mom?

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> 2. Didn't L. Ron Hubbard believe that ONE of the reasons a person
> attacks Scientology is because they are insane? Didn't L. Ron Hubbard
> state that "Only the insane would try to stop us". Doesn't the people
> who are at the upper levels of the Church of Scientology believe the
> same thing as L. Ron Hubbard did regarding this matter? Since L. Ron
> Hubbard said that only the insane would attack Scientology, wouldn't
> the people who follow his teachings feel the same way? Wasn't it the
> belief of L Ron Hubbard and is the current belief of the people who
> are running Scientology right now, that one of the reasons a person
> attacks Scientology is because they are insane?

I agree with that. I don't agree that people with a hidden death wish
infiltrated SCN and took important technology out and altered SCN. But
it is true, original Scientology solved the problems on this earth and
the universe. All of them. Attacking something that would let
everybody win, is insanity. You still can have many wins in SCN and
change your life to the better, but as far as I have seen, if original
L. Ron Hubbard technology does not come back, (and I posted before
that it even included eternal youth and end of diseases) all the
problems on earth and in the universe will not be solved.

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> 3. Didn't L. Ron Hubbard feel that one of the reasons a person attacks
> Scientology is because they have Scientology mixed up with some other
> terminal either in present time or off the time track?

Yes, I noticed too that suppressive people don't get it straight whom
to attack. They attack SCN, but actually they subconciously compare it
to other movements that were bad to them on the timetrack.

Doesn't the
> people who are currently running Scientology right now feel that ONE
> of the reasons a person would attack Scientology is because they have
> Scientology mixed up with some other terminal either in present time
> or off the track?

The people that run Scientology today are a mixed bag. There are the
real and good Scientologists, who want to do the best for the world,
and there are the non-religious inftiltrators that have another and a
hidden agenda. They have different ways to see the world.

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> 4. If a person who did have a good ability to differentiate one
> terminal from another ( i.e. be able to tell them apart ) was to
> attack Scientology, what could be the other reasons why that person
> was attacking Scientology?

Are you sure he really can differentiate? What is your evidence
hereto? But one reason is that his case officer telling him to attack,
and the large majority of people are trained to follow their case
officer whatever he tells them.

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> 5. Isn't it possible that the reason a person is attacking Scientology
> is because L. Ron Hubbard or the people who are currently running
> Scientology have crimes against that person? Is it possible?

L. Ron Hubbard committed no crimes against anybody. Scientologists
know that committing crimes is really stupid and that it will come
back to hount them. They are not stupid. As far as the infiltrators
are concerned, I am not speaking of their behalf. Everything is
possible with infiltrators, which say they are Scientologists, just as
Tory, Michael Pattinson, Arnie Lerma, Roger Gonnet, Garry Armstrong,
Jesse Prince and so many more, but never were. Their only religion
was/is their case officer.

Barbara Schwarz

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> Truth Seeker
> "A man must purify himself, no man can purify another"
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> If you want to know what Scientology doesn't want you
> to know, take a look these posts that I've put up earlier on
> this newsgroup. (That's if the Church of "Suppress Free Speech"
> hasn't illegally cancelled them)
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> "How to tell a real critic of Scientology from a phony one"
> "How you know you've just read phony criticism created by Scientology"
> "Scientology's Plan to Stop Critics & Criticism on this newsgroup"
> "The key to how Scientology is handling this newsgroup"
> "Why you should stay away from Scientology"
> "The FAQ for Alt.Religion.Scientology"
> "Names Scientology is Posting by on this newsgroup"
> "Tactics OSA uses to stop critics on this newsgroup"
> "The Magical Transformation of Church Member into Critic"
> "How Scientology is playing both sides of the coin"
> "Scientology's Decoy System"
> "The 3 beliefs Scientology wants the world to believe"
> "Some different Ways to "Handle" Scientology"
> "How Scientology Traps New Members"
> "Scientology's Trick to keep people from REAL criticism"
> "Weaknesses of the Church of Scientology"
> "How Scientology creates identity confusion"