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From: "anonymous.infor...@gmail.com" <anonymous.infor...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,de.soc.weltanschauung.scientology
Subject: Re: Gerry Armstrong is impersonating Spacetraveler...
Date: 25 Feb 2005 12:48:57 -0800
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"The investigation caught Armstrong on videotape stating that
he intended to forge and then plant incriminating documents
on Church premises, to be discovered in a subsequent raid."
- Religious Freedom Watch
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Spacetraveler wrote:
>>>How low can one sink...
Gerry Armstrong wrote:
>> Says the guy who lost miserably when arguing with
>> Spacetraveler...
Spacetraveler wrote:
> Thank you Gerry, you expose yourself here!
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Spacetraveler wrote:
>>>Impersonating in order to smear...
Gerry Armstrong wrote:
>> Absurd and irrational reasoning. If you see that
>> something works it is no believe it is knowing.
Spacetraveler wrote:
> Once again you expose yourself here. You admit for all
> that you at least approve of the impersonator.
> That all by itself is pretty low character.
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Spacetraveler wrote:
>>>Look at the writing style, judge for yourself...
Gerry Armstrong wrote:
>> Unsupported claim. Disproven by fact.
Spacetraveler wrote:
> What fact?
>
> Sorry Gerry, your response does not witness of much
> intelligence.
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Gerry Armstrong wrote:
>> And this is a counter argument? Great! We can't do much
>> with that, now can we.
Spacetraveler wrote:
> Here we go again. The above is a sentence I have frequently
> used. And here we have Gerry using it.
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Gerry Armstrong wrote:
>> And I've told you what to do...
>>
>> Of course you have to say that, when being in error
>> or being evasive.
Spacetraveler wrote:
> And once again Gerry (or the fake 'Spacetraveler') using one
> of my lines.
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Gerry Armstrong wrote:
>> It's you who is not dulicating, I explained this at
>> lenght several times already.
Spacetraveler wrote:
> And another one of my lines.
>
> Do we need to know more?
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Hi Spacetraveler,
Gerry Armstrong, who is not the only ARS con who engages
in fraud, has a documented past history of forging and
planting false documents.
- Anonymous
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http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/armstrong1.html
GERRY ARMSTRONG
Gerald Armstrong is a former clerk in a Scientology church.
In former days, Armstrong hatched a plot to seize the Church's
assets in collaboration with the Los Angeles IRS Criminal
Investigation Division.
When the Church discovered this, its attorneys obtained
permission from a Los Angeles police officer to conduct
an investigation into Armstrong's plans. The investigation
caught Armstrong on videotape stating that he intended to
forge and then plant incriminating documents on Church
premises, to be discovered in a subsequent raid. When
challenged on how he would obtain proof of the allegations
he intended to make, he responded that: "We don't have to
prove a goddam thing. We don't have to prove shit. We just
have to allege it."
As part of the same scheme, Armstrong planned to subvert
a senior Scientology executive using sexual enticement
in a scheme he titled "Operation Long Prong." This is
documented both in his own handwriting and on video.
Since fleeing California, Armstrong, a native Canadian,
has lived in British Columbia, Canada, and appears to have
no gainful employment. Yet he has somehow managed to travel
all over the world in pursuit of his hate agenda.
In 2000, Armstrong traveled to Europe to attend an anti-
religious conference in Leipzig, Germany.
In 2001, Armstrong traveled extensively in Europe, joining in
a hate march in France with extremist Roger Gonnet and
visiting anti-religious groups in Russia and Denmark. At a
meeting of hate groups in Russia, Armstrong met with
deprogramming proponent Alexander Dvorkin.
In addition to his unlawful activities, Armstrong's mental
stability is questionable. Armstrong once posted a message
on the Internet concerning a letter he sent to Saddam Hussein
during the Gulf War. In the letter, he offered himself to
Hussein as a hostage in the Iraqi war. "If either side failed
to perform any part of the agreement, the other side could
execute me," he concluded. Armstrong makes clear in his
posting that he did not think the letter to Hussein was
a joke, but was deadly serious. He quite proudly republishes
it and other similar writings from time to time. To further
demonstrate how out of touch he is with reality, Armstrong had
himself photographed by a newspaper naked while holding a globe
to promote his theories of destroying all money.
Gerald Armstrong - Self Portrait
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/images/armstrongarm.jpg
WHAT ARMSTRONG'S "FRIENDS" THINK OF HIM
The following is what Gerry Armstrong's "friends" think of him:
Rob Clark: "Gerry Armstrong flat-out walked off [from the
Church of Scientology] with a bunch of stuff when he left.
... what Armstrong did would otherwise have been theft. ...
I'm disgusted with warrior [Mark Plummer]. I was not
particularly pleased when he signed off on that c---sucker
Armstrong smearing me with his dumbass ...page. ...
Armstrong is totally kooking out"
Rob Clark: "... you want to see the new nuttiest Gerry
Armstrong hate page ever? The animated kicking is supposed
to signify Armstrong jerking as the electroshock hits.
Any time anyone else suggests that maybe this is kooky,
they get a new wing added to the Armstrong hate gallery
just for them. I didn't realize Armstrong was more than
mildly kooky until recently."
Paul Rubin: "I used to hang out with Armstrong a fair amount.
He had a zealot and maybe paranoid streak but wasn't whacko
like this."
Rob Clark: "Where anyone who disagrees with Armstrong's
continuing lunatic rampage gets added. If they really
disagree with his lunacy, they get their own whole section
as an "op" with wacky animated gifs."
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Rob Clark: "Gerry Armstrong accused her [Katherine Harris]
of being Aldrich Ames."
Stephen Sheehan: "He said this, in seriousness."
[Name Deleted]: "He [Gerry Armstrong] is a complete idiot."
Rob Clark: "He's a vicious psycho is what he is."
[Name Deleted]: "He doesn't actually believe that, does he?"
Rob Clark: "If he does believe it, he's insane and if he
doesn't, he is deliberately libeling someone just because
they disagree with his loony bullshit."
Stephen Sheehan: "Stupid Gerry Armstrong."
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Scott Pilutik: "Martin Ottmann got his own wing in the
Gerry kook-o-fame."
Deana Holmes: "God Gerry's a nutball."
Scott Pilutik: "It's ok, it's for legal reasons the expected
insanity defense."
Elizabeth Fisher: "Gerry nuts = prominent critic, ergo,
all critics are nuts. This is kinda serious, albeit a tad
farfetched."
Ed Hammerstrom: "Hiya ef [Elizabeth Fisher]"
Elizabeth Fisher: "Are you too a fan of Gerry's osa pages?"
Ed Hammerstrom: "Not really."
Elizabeth Fisher: "It gets worse and worse he now added
Martin Ottmann."
Scott Pilutik: "Martin gets his own dedicated page. It's not
quite as telling as Arnie's subdirectories. He makes a new
one each time it seems, each less descriptive and more useless
as the last. He [Gerry Armstrong] never used to be this kooky.
He always had a sort of Jebus complex but it never quite
germinated into the messiahdom it is now."
Elizabeth Fisher: "No. he always had the messiahdom but now,
it seems, it is being encouraged. I mean, someone makes those
pages for him I presume, Caroline [Letkeman]."
Scott Pilutik: "No idea how the dynamics of that relationship
work, but I think it's safe to say she's [Caroline Letkeman]
encouraging some seriously kooky behavior or pushing for it."
Elizabeth Fisher: "Yes, that is what I see too. ...
She [Letkeman] really is so foolish as to believe all
his [Armstrong] delusions?"
Kady O'Malley: "She's [Letkeman] obsessed with occult links."
Elizabeth Fisher: " ... she [Letkeman] appeared in Chilliwack,
where he [Armstrong] was residing."
Kady O'Malley: "The one interesting tidbit I note about
Caroline is that until late 2001 possibly 2002 she had a
listed online webpage. After she had become a visible critic
under her own name."
Elizabeth Fisher: "His [Armstrong] insanity is getting worse
and she [Letkeman] must be encouraging it."
Kady O'Malley: "...but the thing is, you read Gerry from 1997,
1998 it's like a different person."
Ed Hammerstrom: "He [Armstrong] definitely is going crazy,
seems to me. I think he has had alcohol problems in the past."
Kady O'Malley: "Ed, if you were his girlfriend, wouldn't you
be doing something other that (sic) encourage him in this?
I mean, I find it bizarre that she'd not only not be trying
to wind him down but actively instigating."
Elizabeth Disher: "He's [Armstrong] always been totally
paranoid."
Ed Hammerstrom: "I have to conclude they are both in a crazy
self-destructive path."
Rob Clark: "Loonboy [Armstrong] has declared Martin Ottmann
an osa op??
"What a f---ing NUTCASE that is just unf---ingbelievable. ...
Sorry, anyone who thinks Martin Ottmann is an osa op has fried
their f---ing brain and needs to be under observation in
a locked ward."
Kady O'Malley: "We're all agreed on Gerry being insane.
Don't tell warrior [Mark Plummer]."
Elizabeth Fisher: "Gerry really really wanted someone to web
stuff for him but at the time, it was his hokey no money
'philosophy' pages."
Kady O'Malley: "... they're [Armstrong and Letkeman] both
just going mutually crazy, symbiotic psychosis."
Rob Clark: "... marginally nutty critics would sure explain
a couple things, like Arnie. Heather drove Bunker insane,
their relationship was completely platonic."
Elizabeth Fisher: "He [Armstrong] is getting worse."
Rob Clark: "I don't think he [Armstrong] went crazy that fast
I think it is just only recently that he has been called on
his bullshit by a lot of people."
Kady O'Malley: "Well, the first time I noticed it was in
2001ish that's relatively quick he probably would have
kooked out insanely in 1998 if he had been called on
the carpet on some thing. You might be right."
Rob Clark: "He [Armstrong] was crazy a couple years ago re CL.
... In fact, the MOMENT CL started questioning his versions
of event, he just went nuts. ... When you're accusing Martin
Ottmann of being OSA you're completely in cloud cuckoo land.
Martin Ottmann could very easily sue him for libel and win
in Germany these are very nearly summary proceedings. Martin
could file a libel action claiming these accusations are
libelous and false and Gerry would either have to prove them
or get fined. You know when he [Gerry Armstrong] went crazy
with me? When I posted the transcript section detailing his
money laundering. Seems he viciously attacks anyone who has
anything that might tend to discredit his bullshit image
as some saint instead of the shiftless, sponging kook he
actually is."
Ed Hammerstrom: "Gerry has a heavy alcohol problem. ...
He was building an artwork of his empty booze bottles
in a field in BC."
Rob Clark: "Although this freakish paranoia is like speed or
coke paranoia that or he smokes way too much dope. ... It's
also possible Gerry has never had a huge website before
in which his lunacy could sprawl out without limit and that
Caroline is merely an amanuensis to Gerry's insanity."
[Name Deleted]: "Is Gandow supporting him [Armstrong]?"
Kady O'Malley: "Morally or financially?"
[Name Deleted]: "Financially."
Kady O'Malley: "Gandow has been mighty silent of late."
[Name Deleted]: "Well if Gandow is getting money ... or
anybody, it may be an issue because he gets government money
I believe he or his church."
Elizabeth Fisher: "Gandow may just be realizing that Gerry
is nuts, is all he's a bit naive, Gandow."
[Name Deleted]: "Gandow is pretty vile himself."
Rob Clark: "He's despicable, god, talk about an insane asylum:
Truth Seeker, Magoo, Warrior, Zinj, Fredric Rice."
Ed Hammerstrom: "...is off and quiet."
Rob Clark: "yah, if you don't, you end up like Gerry is lately.
He has now just declared Martin Ottmann an OSA op for no sane
reason. He's totally gone off the deep end."
Stephen Sheehan: "He's [Armstrong] saying everyone and their
grandparents are OSA."
Rob Clark: "I ended up having warrior [Mark Plummer] repost old
... shit on me because I pointed out that Gerry got fooled
by a blatantly forged email. Anyway, this is the sort of
stuff that can't appear sane to a casual onlooker which is
why, IMO, ars [hate newsgroup] is bad for mental health.
I am more and more seeing it [ars] as a data dump than as a
place where there are actual human beings who can be
communicated with in a sane manner."
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
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